[DodgeCares]

I have a new problem I haven't seen mentioned yet. I have a 'stripper' model (Stage 1 R/T, no other options). As such, the trunk is manually opened/lifted after pressing the rubber button on the rear of the car. I drove my son 70 miles to college on Sunday and when we arrived, the trunk button was completely dead so we couldn't unload his stuff!

I had stopped at his dorm and exited the car with the fob in my pocket and the car still "running", so I got a triple-honk warning from the horn. I thought this might've triggered the glitch somehow, so I pressed the power button to "turn off" the car and tried again.. the trunk button was still dead. I thought maybe it was a passive keyfob signal issue, so I took the fob out of my pocket and held it in my hand while pressing the trunk button.. nothing. I also locked/unlocked the car using the fob to try to reset things, but that didn't work either. I tried forcefully pushing down and pulling up on the hatch to see if maybe there was a sensor switch that needed tweaking.. nothing. Finally, we gave up and dragged his stuff out through the folded-down back seat, which was pretty ridiculous.

There is no backup for opening the rear trunk. No button on the cheapo keyfob - no button inside the car. I have no idea if you folks with non-stripper cars have a backup entry method, but I haven't found one.

I drove 70 miles home and before plugging in the charger, I hit the trunk button to see if it worked.. the first 3-4 presses did nothing, then suddenly the button started working again. It's worked fine ever since. My dealer has no ideas.

This is quite the concern. We have reached out to you for more information pertaining to this, as we would like to document this for a comprehensive review to see where a solution can be found/created. Your assistance in resolving this will be invaluable, and we will greatly appreciate any knowledge provided during this time. Thank you, and we hope to connect with you shortly.

Chris,
Dodge Cares

 

[RedSurj80]

Anyone know if you can set the mirrors to fold in when the car is parked? I can't see it in any of the settings?

Also, +1 to all the comments I've seen many of you raise about the regen braking resetting every time you change drive mode. What an annoying and potentially dangerous setting to have as a default with no ability for the driver to configure it.

 

[RedSurj80]

Anyone else noticed that the Active Driving Assistant is pretty "wobbly"? I am coming from a Tesla, so have very high expectations because their tech is pretty stellar, but in the couple days I have had the car, I have had multiple instances where the car veers very close to the line separating the lanes and, in one instance, actually veered over the line. There was nothing about the conditions (road, visibility of markings, other drivers, etc) that I could see would have caused this.

 

[DaBoostR]

Mirrors are manual to fold in... Was a little dissapointed it wasn't a feature with the fully loaded options.

 

[RedSurj80]

Mirrors are manual to fold in... Was a little dissapointed it wasn't a feature with the fully loaded options.

That's a huge miss on what is a pretty basic feature on a premium priced car.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Anyone know if you can set the mirrors to fold in when the car is parked? I can't see it in any of the settings?

Also, +1 to all the comments I've seen many of you raise about the regen braking resetting every time you change drive mode. What an annoying and potentially dangerous setting to have as a default with no ability for the driver to configure it.

I don't think they fold electrically because the car is so damn wide, they aren't really a problem sticking out.
And yep, regen setting is a PITA. BUT, I've just about learned to live with it muscle memory wise. And on my recent economy trip, I USED them. I drove in Auto mode, usually on ACC. Then when not, I used the paddles like shifters for "e-downshifting" (Yep, you heard it here first). Like closing in on a stop sign, bump it down a notch, then getting close, drop it down another e-gear, to slow to a stop(ish, you know... Dodge).

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Anyone else noticed that the Active Driving Assistant is pretty "wobbly"? I am coming from a Tesla, so have very high expectations because their tech is pretty stellar, but in the couple days I have had the car, I have had multiple instances where the car veers very close to the line separating the lanes and, in one instance, actually veered over the line. There was nothing about the conditions (road, visibility of markings, other drivers, etc) that I could see would have caused this.

Nah, seems pretty standard to me. My 2019 Volvo S90 T8 was the best, other than the needing resistance to it, to keep it active. My 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit L was almost as nice, and the capacitive wheel was WAY nicer. 2021 Polestar 2 should have been identical or better than the Volvo, same technology, but wasn't. My KIA EV6 is nice, as is this Dodge. The capacitive wheel isn't as sensitive as the one in the Jeep, I guess depends on the cover?

 

[Phooey]

Anyone know if you can set the mirrors to fold in when the car is parked? I can't see it in any of the settings?

I'm fairly certain the mirror housings are not motorized. If you want them in when parked, you have to fold them in yourself.

 

[DaBoostR]

I don't think they fold electrically because the car is so damn wide, they aren't really a problem sticking out.
And yep, regen setting is a PITA. BUT, I've just about learned to live with it muscle memory wise. And on my recent economy trip, I USED them. I drove in Auto mode, usually on ACC. Then when not, I used the paddles like shifters for "e-downshifting" (Yep, you heard it here first). Like closing in on a stop sign, bump it down a notch, then getting close, drop it down another e-gear, to slow to a stop(ish, you know... Dodge).

I've been using the paddles to down/up shift. After I stop, muscle memory kicks in and I set it back to level 1. I'm getting used to leaving it at level 2 and single peddle it. I am expecting to learn about paddle shifting during our Radford Racing perk ;-)

 

[FLTLNR]

I've been using the paddles to down/up shift. After I stop, muscle memory kicks in and I set it back to level 1. I'm getting used to leaving it at level 2 and single peddle it. I am expecting to learn about paddle shifting during our Radford Racing perk ;-)

The drive mode VS regen isnt that odd honestly.

My Mach E forced different levels of regen per drive mode with NO way to alter it when in one pedal drive. It would force it as well in two pedal (e-coasting in this car).

The fact that we can change it at all is neat to me.

 

[Sackmonkey]

This is quite the concern. We have reached out to you for more information pertaining to this, as we would like to document this for a comprehensive review to see where a solution can be found/created. Your assistance in resolving this will be invaluable, and we will greatly appreciate any knowledge provided during this time. Thank you, and we hope to connect with you shortly.

Chris,
Dodge Cares

I love that Dodge is being so proactive to squash bugs with this platform's release! I look forward to getting some eyes on my car at my Friday service appointment, but in the mean time, I thought I'd share an update.

The problem has happened twice more. Saturday night, I drove to dinner with some friends. Afterwards, I dropped them off (literally across the street from our house) and had to get out to open the trunk so that they could grab their leftovers. I then drove across the street to my own house and the trunk refused to open to allow us to grab our own carryout box. I had to climb through the back seat to retrieve the food. Power cycling the ignition didn't help, nor did physically jostling the hatch (I'm not sure if there's some sensor in the latch, so I thought it was worth a try).

Sunday, as I was walking past the car, I thought I'd just randomly check to see if the hatch would open (I had the fob in my pocket). It opened fine, so I closed it and tried again and the switch was completely dead. I couldn't get it to work at all, so I just gave up.

 

[Sackmonkey]

I love that Dodge is being so proactive to squash bugs with this platform's release! I look forward to getting some eyes on my car at my Friday service appointment, but in the mean time, I thought I'd share an update.

The problem has happened twice more. Saturday night, I drove to dinner with some friends. Afterwards, I dropped them off (literally across the street from our house) and had to get out to open the trunk so that they could grab their leftovers. I then drove across the street to my own house and the trunk refused to open to allow us to grab our own carryout box. I had to climb through the back seat to retrieve the food. Power cycling the ignition didn't help, nor did physically jostling the hatch (I'm not sure if there's some sensor in the latch, so I thought it was worth a try).

Sunday, as I was walking past the car, I thought I'd just randomly check to see if the hatch would open (I had the fob in my pocket). It opened fine, so I closed it and tried again and the switch was completely dead. I couldn't get it to work at all, so I just gave up.

Whoops.. that post was supposed to go in the chain above. I didn't mean to create a whole new post.

 

[DodgeCares]

I love that Dodge is being so proactive to squash bugs with this platform's release! I look forward to getting some eyes on my car at my Friday service appointment, but in the mean time, I thought I'd share an update.

The problem has happened twice more. Saturday night, I drove to dinner with some friends. Afterwards, I dropped them off (literally across the street from our house) and had to get out to open the trunk so that they could grab their leftovers. I then drove across the street to my own house and the trunk refused to open to allow us to grab our own carryout box. I had to climb through the back seat to retrieve the food. Power cycling the ignition didn't help, nor did physically jostling the hatch (I'm not sure if there's some sensor in the latch, so I thought it was worth a try).

Sunday, as I was walking past the car, I thought I'd just randomly check to see if the hatch would open (I had the fob in my pocket). It opened fine, so I closed it and tried again and the switch was completely dead. I couldn't get it to work at all, so I just gave up.

Thank you for relaying this information! This has been documented and relayed within your case file for handling. Please keep us updated on your experience, and we will continue to assist where able.

Chris,
Dodge Cares

 

[Pioneer4x4]

I love that Dodge is being so proactive to squash bugs with this platform's release! ...

Are you making a joke, because it doesn't seem like it. But it is...
Issues identifies over 2 months ago, that if they were "proactive" would have been identified and resolved 1 year ago, you know, when they were preparing these cars and announced that you could buy one last summer!
Issues that are still not resolved.
Issues that are still not even acknowledged.
And I wish there was some way we could commend the design engineers of these cars. Has anyone come up with something that is an actual design flaw in the car, something that just is wrong and "cannot" work right, not something that "if this was programmed right, it would actually work"
Thos guys must be so pissed. Design something and say use the xxxx component here that does yyyy, and then it doesn't work. That isn't the engineers' fault that designed the car, that is whoever configured, programmed, chose that part.
Back to the point, what bug have they squashed, and how was it "proactive"?

 

[Sackmonkey]

Are you making a joke, because it doesn't seem like it. But it is...
Issues identifies over 2 months ago, that if they were "proactive" would have been identified and resolved 1 year ago, you know, when they were preparing these cars and announced that you could buy one last summer!
Issues that are still not resolved.
Issues that are still not even acknowledged.
And I wish there was some way we could commend the design engineers of these cars. Has anyone come up with something that is an actual design flaw in the car, something that just is wrong and "cannot" work right, not something that "if this was programmed right, it would actually work"
Thos guys must be so pissed. Design something and say use the xxxx component here that does yyyy, and then it doesn't work. That isn't the engineers' fault that designed the car, that is whoever configured, programmed, chose that part.
Back to the point, what bug have they squashed, and how was it "proactive"?

TBH, I wasn't joking! But I'll admit that I'm very late to this party. I leased my car very impulsively based on a stupid-low price and the need for a Michigan winter car (dumped my Tesla M3P and replaced it with a C8 Vette). No research at all.. not even a test drive! I haven't felt the pain of this disastrous launch like you all have.

My limited perspective is that I jumped into a new car, found a problem, whined about it on an internet forum, and Dodge reached out to me directly within 2 days to try to investigate the issue. From that perspective, it's very impressive! I've never had that experience with any automaker. From your perspective, it's clearly been a complete disaster. If the final result is that they never fix the problem and I can't reliably use my trunk for the next 24 months, I'll certainly be quite unhappy with that result also!

Back on topic though, I think I can reproduce this problem pretty reliably now: walk out to car (keyfob in pocket), press button, open and immediately re-close trunk (manually.. no power lift here), press button again, nothing happens. Trunk absolutely won't open no matter how many times you press it.

 

[Sackmonkey]

I don't think they fold electrically because the car is so damn wide, they aren't really a problem sticking out.
And yep, regen setting is a PITA. BUT, I've just about learned to live with it muscle memory wise. And on my recent economy trip, I USED them. I drove in Auto mode, usually on ACC. Then when not, I used the paddles like shifters for "e-downshifting" (Yep, you heard it here first). Like closing in on a stop sign, bump it down a notch, then getting close, drop it down another e-gear, to slow to a stop(ish, you know... Dodge).

I think you're on to something here! I'm starting to feel like it's how Dodge engineers intended the car to be driven. Driving with max regen (my preference in an EV), it's painfully tough to drive smoothly. Lately, I've been experimenting with medium regen, then tapping to low as I decelerate and back to medium when I proceed. It's bizarre and unnecessarily complicated, but it seems to work.

 

[Sackmonkey]

Anyone else noticed that the Active Driving Assistant is pretty "wobbly"? I am coming from a Tesla, so have very high expectations because their tech is pretty stellar, but in the couple days I have had the car, I have had multiple instances where the car veers very close to the line separating the lanes and, in one instance, actually veered over the line. There was nothing about the conditions (road, visibility of markings, other drivers, etc) that I could see would have caused this.

I felt it was on-par with current Tesla at first, then I used it on a long highway drive and eventually had to turn it off. It felt like it was ping-ponging side-to-side to me.. I could feel it, but didn't visually see it in the form of drifting in the lane. It was a somewhat windy day though, so that was probably a factor. If it's not quite as good as Tesla, I do think it's very, very close. The capacitive wheel sensor seems to work perfectly, which is a nice improvement over Tesla's force sensing.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

I felt it was on-par with current Tesla at first, then I used it on a long highway drive and eventually had to turn it off. It felt like it was ping-ponging side-to-side to me.. I could feel it, but didn't visually see it in the form of drifting in the lane. It was a somewhat windy day though, so that was probably a factor. If it's not quite as good as Tesla, I do think it's very, very close. The capacitive wheel sensor seems to work perfectly, which is a nice improvement over Tesla's force sensing.

Sounds like a good comparison. My son in law had a M3P (brutally quick), not my cup of tea, but dang was it quick.
I actually considered a C8 instead of this Daytona! Nice car, very nice car. I was considering a 3LT in Riptide. Nothing else added on, basically same MSRP as my Daytona. (I think)
And yes, big fan of capacitive wheel.

 

[Phooey]

I think you're on to something here! I'm starting to feel like it's how Dodge engineers intended the car to be driven. Driving with max regen (my preference in an EV), it's painfully tough to drive smoothly. Lately, I've been experimenting with medium regen, then tapping to low as I decelerate and back to medium when I proceed. It's bizarre and unnecessarily complicated, but it seems to work.

What drive mode are you using? I always go straight to sport with max regen (left untouched unless getting on the highway) and I have no issue driving it smoothly. It does take a bit more pedal control than other cars I've owned, but it wasn't a big adjustment for me just because of what I usually own/drive and how I drive it. However, I can see how someone coming from another EV like a Tesla might have a hard time adjusting, because this car was built as a "muscle car" first and an EV last, so I expect there to be many unexpected differences and quirks you have to get used to.

 

[Sackmonkey]

What drive mode are you using? I always go straight to sport with max regen (left untouched unless getting on the highway) and I have no issue driving it smoothly. It does take a bit more pedal control than other cars I've owned, but it wasn't a big adjustment for me just because of what I usually own/drive and how I drive it. However, I can see how someone coming from another EV like a Tesla might have a hard time adjusting, because this car was built as a "muscle car" first and an EV last, so I expect there to be many unexpected differences and quirks you have to get used to.

I was in Sport almost exclusively, but am now trying to embrace Auto mode to improve my crappy range. Both of them seem twitchy in terms of smooth throttle control when in max regen though. It's actually a little ironic because the Tesla has instant throttle response when you hammer it, whereas the Daytona has a very slow lag.. almost like a simulated turbo lag, then it just GOES. Yet at the same time it's far more twitchy somehow.

I have never been in a Scat Pack car so I don't know if it's the same. The R/T has the identical powertrain though but is software-crippled to slow it down. The way they slowed it makes it feel very nonlinear and laggy, especially off the line.. then it just flies and you're accidentally doing 100mph! It's funny.. right around the speed where the Tesla starts to feel like the acceleration is dropping off (say 40~50mph), the Daytona is just coming onto boil. The two couldn't drive more differently!