[P.S.Mangelsdorf]

@DodgeCares
SO my outstanding issues (some are opinion, yes, others aren't)
https://www.daytonaowners.com/posts/2298/ - original list
https://www.daytonaowners.com/posts/2467/ - uConnect bugs
https://www.daytonaowners.com/posts/2479/ - We were under the impression a Level 1 "Granny Charger" was included
https://www.daytonaowners.com/posts/2488/ - Screenshots add personalized info such as VIN and exact GPS coordinates which should be a toggle option
https://www.daytonaowners.com/posts/2703/ - Permission prompt for USB, both annoying after 1st time, and kinda small
@Administrator if this can be its own thread, or a sticky, let me know how I can help.

One note on the Uconnect weirdness/errors - I had mine into the dealer this week. They told me there is a known issue but the patch isn't yet available.

 

[P.S.Mangelsdorf]

It's gone this morning, fixed seemingly by itself overnight. What would you do about that if you were me?

I've had two of those -one on the way home from the dealer, and one two days later trying to unplug overnight.

The first, I took right back, they said there was an issue with an update, reran it, and everything was fine. The second, I walked away for 2 minutes, came back, and it was gone. When I had it in this week, they didn't find any issues.

I haven't had any other EV system errors since, and I'm close to 900 miles.

Overall, I personally would just keep an eye on things and if it happens again, then call your dealer.

 

[P.S.Mangelsdorf]

New issue with the uconnect system View attachment 1218

Mine gave me that, but didn't have noticeable functionality issues after I hit the X - I took it in this week and they said there's a known issue but the patch isn't ready.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

@DodgeCares - Another issue, with the manuals.
Sorry for the crappy photo, used 10x, didn't feel like getting in.
This control panel/switch panel/button panel is NOT listed anywhere I can find.

Park Assist/LKA (Active Lane Management)/Traction Control/Launch Mode buttons.
Since I hit 500 miles, I went to enable Launch Mode, just to see what/.if it does anything. Then I remembered those buttons, and played with them. I noticed that they changed from white to amber/orange. So when done, I put them all back to white. BIG mistake. Active Lane Management turned on, and that is something I hate. I noticed it when the road widened from 2 lanes into 3 lanes. I tried to stay in the right most lane, and the steering wheel started bussing and it "Actively tried to Manage me back into the middle Lane!" I spend maybe 5 minutes going through uConnect settings trying to turn it off. I found 3 settings for how it works, but nothing to turn it off. I got home, looked through the Owner's Manual, nothing. Looked through the Owner's Handbook, nothing. Tried the Quick Start Guide, NOTHING.
That row of buttons isn't in any of the documentation I have. (All PDFs downloaded from Dodge so I can use Search functions).
The button itself IS REFERENCED (INCORRECTLY) in the owner's manual though!

And I found a reference to the Launch Control incorrect in the manual. (And another Line Lock reference)

I will download new (HOPEFULLY!) versions today and check those. EDIT: I just did, all the same versions as what I already had from early December.
FWIW, I did find this correct reference to the "Switch Panel", but nothing more than it does exist.

I found nothing for the Traction Control button or the Launch Mode button.
If I am wrong, PLEASE someone show me!

 

[P.S.Mangelsdorf]

@DodgeCares - Another issue, with the manuals.
Sorry for the crappy photo, used 10x, didn't feel like getting in.
This control panel/switch panel/button panel is NOT listed anywhere I can find.
View attachment 1232
Park Assist/LKA (Active Lane Management)/Traction Control/Launch Mode buttons.
Since I hit 500 miles, I went to enable Launch Mode, just to see what/.if it does anything. Then I remembered those buttons, and played with them. I noticed that they changed from white to amber/orange. So when done, I put them all back to white. BIG mistake. Active Lane Management turned on, and that is something I hate. I noticed it when the road widened from 2 lanes into 3 lanes. I tried to stay in the right most lane, and the steering wheel started bussing and it "Actively tried to Manage me back into the middle Lane!" I spend maybe 5 minutes going through uConnect settings trying to turn it off. I found 3 settings for how it works, but nothing to turn it off. I got home, looked through the Owner's Manual, nothing. Looked through the Owner's Handbook, nothing. Tried the Quick Start Guide, NOTHING.
That row of buttons isn't in any of the documentation I have. (All PDFs downloaded from Dodge so I can use Search functions).
The button itself IS REFERENCED (INCORRECTLY) in the owner's manual though!
View attachment 1234
And I found a reference to the Launch Control incorrect in the manual. (And another Line Lock reference)
View attachment 1235

I will download new (HOPEFULLY!) versions today and check those. EDIT: I just did, all the same versions as what I already had from early December.
FWIW, I did find this correct reference to the "Switch Panel", but nothing more than it does exist.
View attachment 1236
I found nothing for the Traction Control button or the Launch Mode button.
If I am wrong, PLEASE someone show me!

Interesting, in the R/T I have, left to right:
blank, park assist, lane departure, traction control, blank.

From what I can tell, white is on, orange is off. I have never turned on lane departure, and I typically have to turn off park assist to back the car far enough into my garage that I can close the door and walk around the front to get out. Traction control turns off when you turn on Sport mode in the R/T. I remember hearing in either a review or some post that a long hold on traction control turns all the nannies all the way off, but I have not experimented with that, nor do I remember where I heard it.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Interesting, in the R/T I have, left to right:
blank, park assist, lane departure, traction control, blank.

From what I can tell, white is on, orange is off. I have never turned on lane departure, and I typically have to turn off park assist to back the car far enough into my garage that I can close the door and walk around the front to get out. Traction control turns off when you turn on Sport mode in the R/T. I remember hearing in either a review or some post that a long hold on traction control turns all the nannies all the way off, but I have not experimented with that, nor do I remember where I heard it.

So your Lane Departure thing has always been Orange? I can say, it does "Work" and work well. I just can't stand it. In SW PA every road is twisty adn you're always "Straightening the Curves" and/or avoiding crappy roads, man holes, dead deer...
BUT, although I disable that on every car I've eve had with it, I do keep every other safety feature on. I can't imagine how horrible I'd feel if something bad happened and something could have helped prevent it, but I turned it off.
Also, on road trips, all highway type stuff, I DO turn it back on, again, for safety.

 

[P.S.Mangelsdorf]

So your Lane Departure thing has always been Orange? I can say, it does "Work" and work well. I just can't stand it. In SW PA every road is twisty adn you're always "Straightening the Curves" and/or avoiding crappy roads, man holes, dead deer...
BUT, although I disable that on every car I've eve had with it, I do keep every other safety feature on. I can't imagine how horrible I'd feel if something bad happened and something could have helped prevent it, but I turned it off.
Also, on road trips, all highway type stuff, I DO turn it back on, again, for safety.

Yes, its been off since I took delivery. I've never tried to turn it on because I hate those with a burning passion.

I have used the advanced driver assist on a road trip, and it's pretty decent. The trip I was on was mostly straight with long sweepers, so I'll have to see how it does on more difficult roads. If it can handle the Taconic Parkway in NY, then I'll really be impressed. I do wish it was not quite so sensitive to having a hand firmly on the wheel, but I completely understand why it does. There was a point where I was quite impressed with how it handled concrete roadway with faded white lines, but then a bit later on clearly marked asphalt, it had trouble, possibly due to the location of the sun.

 

[DodgeCares]

The interior hatch button that sets height and closes hatch is seemingly stuck. I’m going to have my dealership check it this week. Doesn’t seem right and isn’t working correctly. I’ve had to manually close the hatch multiple times. More to come on this.

Our team is glad to hear of your proactive approach to having this concern looked at. For added clarity, have you attempted a manual reset of your hatch? With the hatch open, manually set the height of the open hatch to the desired position and hold the close hatch button for three seconds to set the position as the vehicles new fully open height. If concerns persist, please let us know, and we will best advise where able.

Chris,
Dodge Cares

 

[DodgeCares]

New problem found, on the passenger side, when using the rear seat easy entry feature, the seat moves forward as far as possible and comes back without me touching anything, as if there was an obstacle but there is not.

Our team is actively looking into this, Freddy. For added measure, have you ensured that the sensors associated with your seat is clear of any potential debris that could trigger this malfunction? We appreciate any knowledge given as we look into this.

Chris,
Dodge Cares

 

[DodgeCares]

@DodgeCares - Another issue, with the manuals.
Sorry for the crappy photo, used 10x, didn't feel like getting in.
This control panel/switch panel/button panel is NOT listed anywhere I can find.
View attachment 1232
Park Assist/LKA (Active Lane Management)/Traction Control/Launch Mode buttons.
Since I hit 500 miles, I went to enable Launch Mode, just to see what/.if it does anything. Then I remembered those buttons, and played with them. I noticed that they changed from white to amber/orange. So when done, I put them all back to white. BIG mistake. Active Lane Management turned on, and that is something I hate. I noticed it when the road widened from 2 lanes into 3 lanes. I tried to stay in the right most lane, and the steering wheel started bussing and it "Actively tried to Manage me back into the middle Lane!" I spend maybe 5 minutes going through uConnect settings trying to turn it off. I found 3 settings for how it works, but nothing to turn it off. I got home, looked through the Owner's Manual, nothing. Looked through the Owner's Handbook, nothing. Tried the Quick Start Guide, NOTHING.
That row of buttons isn't in any of the documentation I have. (All PDFs downloaded from Dodge so I can use Search functions).
The button itself IS REFERENCED (INCORRECTLY) in the owner's manual though!
View attachment 1234
And I found a reference to the Launch Control incorrect in the manual. (And another Line Lock reference)
View attachment 1235

I will download new (HOPEFULLY!) versions today and check those. EDIT: I just did, all the same versions as what I already had from early December.
FWIW, I did find this correct reference to the "Switch Panel", but nothing more than it does exist.
View attachment 1236
I found nothing for the Traction Control button or the Launch Mode button.
If I am wrong, PLEASE someone show me!

We are currently looking into this, and will have answers for you shortly. Thank you!

Chris,
Dodge Cares

 

[Pioneer4x4]

We are currently looking into this, and will have answers for you shortly. Thank you!

Chris,
Dodge Cares

Thanks.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

I figured out the always having to turn hvac back on. I'll post later and edit the old posts. But to sum up...
Race-prep doesn't turn off. So it keeps hvac off each startup.

 

[DaBoostR]

And what is the point of this? I only get the same info on all settings (normal drive modes, not Track or Drag)
View attachment 1157
View attachment 1156

There is a Video that talks about it and the narrator states that when you choose the advanced option, the 2nd display will show a layout that lets you drag and drop your widgets in 1x1 or 1x1x1 setup.

But, that is not what my software is doing. I have the same, non customizable/advance setting doing nothing.

 

[Phooey]

Ok I put a lot of miles on my R/T today and here are my issues:

Regen resetting after a power cycle is stupid, annoying, and disconcerting This needs a fix.

I observed a slight different pattern with regen and drive modes than others with Scat Packs have. At least on my R/T, Sport has a default regen setting of 2, and Auto of 1. This actually makes sense, as my old Challenger provided engine braking in Sport. When I turned the regen up to 2 in Auto, then switched to Sport, then returned to Auto, it stayed in 2. It did seem to be different with 3, but honestly I haven't played around enough with regen at 3 to definitively say what was happening. I'll report back more when I do more testing with that.

My one complaint that hasn't been previously noted has to do with Regen settings 2 and 3 however. With Creep off, i.e. one pedal driving, and taking my foot all the way off the throttle to slow down, it does a fine job slowing the car down, but at least on level roads, just before coming to a stop, it grabs the brakes a bit too hard. Basically like a teenager who hasn't learned to feather out the brake as coming to a stop. This is a better issue than an 09 Yukon Hybrid my family had that did the opposite (release regen before physical brakes applied) but it still is jarring and annoying. Seems to be solved by staying a tiny bit on the throttle until almost stopped, or feathering in some brake. Look, I get (from experience) that regen tuning is hard, and this is their first shot at it, but it needs a bit more work.

On the braking, mine does it even with creep on. I drive it in Sport with regen at max, and I've already gotten pretty good at feathering out the accelerator just to the point that regen seems to stop and I'm very very slowly rolling just before I need to actually stop. I switch to brake and feather it in, and just before the car should stop, the breaks suddenly grab and stop it for me. And it's not consistent either - sometimes I can perfectly feather it to a stop.

But it also seems like when it happens, the brakes hold for too long after I release the pedal as well. I'll come to a stop at the light, the brakes grabbing prematurely. The light turns green and I release the brake pedal, but then a second or so later, the brake actually releases and the car has a very quick but light lunge forward as if I had been applying the accelerator against the brake - I definitely was not, I don't brake with my left foot.

Sometimes though, I can feather it to a perfectly smooth stop, and then I'll release the brake to start moving again and it just releases instantly and the car begins creeping as expected, and it feels no different than my Challenger.

Honestly for me, it's little quirks like these that have the biggest impact on my getting used to driving it.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

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Honestly for me, it's little quirks like these that have the biggest impact on my getting used to driving it.

Exactly 💯
The car itself is solid to me. Software, not so much.

 

[P.S.Mangelsdorf]

Software, not so much.

Yesterday Stellantis announced a leadership shake up, which included firing the head of software, and moving software basically into the main product development structure. I saw reporting that said the software division was seen as responsible for the delays in recent product launches. The reporting didn't specifically call out the Daytona and Wagoneer S, But what else could it be?

 

[P.S.Mangelsdorf]

On the braking, mine does it even with creep on. I drive it in Sport with regen at max, and I've already gotten pretty good at feathering out the accelerator just to the point that regen seems to stop and I'm very very slowly rolling just before I need to actually stop. I switch to brake and feather it in, and just before the car should stop, the breaks suddenly grab and stop it for me. And it's not consistent either - sometimes I can perfectly feather it to a stop.

But it also seems like when it happens, the brakes hold for too long after I release the pedal as well. I'll come to a stop at the light, the brakes grabbing prematurely. The light turns green and I release the brake pedal, but then a second or so later, the brake actually releases and the car has a very quick but light lunge forward as if I had been applying the accelerator against the brake - I definitely was not, I don't brake with my left foot.

Sometimes though, I can feather it to a perfectly smooth stop, and then I'll release the brake to start moving again and it just releases instantly and the car begins creeping as expected, and it feels no different than my Challenger.

Honestly for me, it's little quirks like these that have the biggest impact on my getting used to driving it.

I haven't had issues that significant, but there's definitely still some quirks around braking and regen. I drive around in Auto, Regen 2, Creep Off, and like you have gotten pretty good at feathering out.

The brake/creep/regen issue I've been having more often is with the parking brake. Sometimes, if I get in and quickly throw it into gear, it doesn't release the parking brake, sometimes even when I've told it to, and then I try to apply accelerator, it strains against the brake, and something in the software then decides to turn Regen to 1 and turn creep back on. And it locks me out of changing the regen levels until I've power cycled the car. Shows them grey hashed out. Then the brake will release. It most often happens when I've had the car parked outside on my sloping driveway, and jump in to just quickly move it back into the garage.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

I haven't had issues that significant, but there's definitely still some quirks around braking and regen. I drive around in Auto, Regen 2, Creep Off, and like you have gotten pretty good at feathering out.

The brake/creep/regen issue I've been having more often is with the parking brake. Sometimes, if I get in and quickly throw it into gear, it doesn't release the parking brake, sometimes even when I've told it to, and then I try to apply accelerator, it strains against the brake, and something in the software then decides to turn Regen to 1 and turn creep back on. And it locks me out of changing the regen levels until I've power cycled the car. Shows them grey hashed out. Then the brake will release. It most often happens when I've had the car parked outside on my sloping driveway, and jump in to just quickly move it back into the garage.

I think (not sure) that it releases automatically in reverse, but not drive. Something un-intuitive like that. Either way, yep, weirdness.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Current list update @Administrator (Sticky?, new thread?)

My issues/questions (so far) are, in a basically order of importance (to me)

1. Safety issue - Regen levels reset to some arbitrary default of 1,2, or 3 after changing drive mode. This is bad, very bad. Once set, it should never change, even after a re-start. This affects braking, heck it IS braking, and the braking changes, as you drive is not safe.
2. Drive mode resets to Auto after restart (and resets regen level) - The ability to have a Custom setup is a great feature of the car, but if it resets, and you have to go through other modes to get to it after a restart is again, not safe. The car drives differently when you re-start it, than before you turned it off.
3. Main dash display resets after restart/drive mode change. - This is just weird. There are what, a dozen different combinations of displays, and it resets just by choosing Custom or Auto, or restarting your car (I think, I'll double check)?
4. DXR USB Drive Requirements - I only get "External storage is corrupt or damaged, Please reinsert or reformat this device" with an entertaining graphic of a smashed USB Thumb Drive. I've tried several of different age/size, formatted different ways (I am an I.T. professional for decades) and I get the same each time. No where in the manuals does it state what the requirements are. Via adapter from USB A to USB C, the USB drives I tried all work from the front 2 ports for media. So the car can read them. I suspect it is a software issue with the DXR itself? EDIT: exFAT less than 512K total number of Allocation Units works
5. Powershot requirements - I get the message almost all the time that it is unavailable due to battery level. No where was this ever mentioned in the advertising, or online, or in any of the manuals I fully reviewed before purchase. And also, it doesn't state anywhere WHAT the LEVEL actually is, or its requirements. (I assume charge level, but maybe temperature? It is very cold here, 20° tops so far.) If it is charge level, it seems to be 75% needed? If so, that plain sucks, period. You have the highly recommended option to only charge to 80% then right after you leave you lose power? I get it, but this should be fully explained before purchase. Basically, I am not getting the advertised power that he car should have. That is one of the main reasons to buy the car in the first place. According to @DodgeCares , SOC over 20% and EV Battery Temp over 41°F (personally I'd say over 45°F)
6. Fratzonic "Exhaust" - Honestly, I really expected to hate it and turn it off. This is my 3rd full EV after 2 PHEVs. Previously a Polestar 2 with Performance Pack and Performance Upgrade, and we still have a KIA EV6 Gt Line. I've never liked fake anything on a car. The sound of it is REALLY growing on me, I use "Custom" drive mode so only "Sport" powertrain is set, everything else is "Street". And my wife, she hated it, but is not probably indifferent while driving to the sound in Sport Mode. BUT, (everything before "But" is B.S.) the startup/shutdown sounds are not as desirable. Especially when you have it in Auto Mode with Street selected. The driving sounds are faint, and a non-issue, but you still get forced to hear that (according to my wife "Obnoxious") startup/shutdown sounds. I get it, I like it, typically. But in the garage, when people are sleeping, or the dog hears it, I want it off. It takes 4 selections on the touch screen (WITH Settings as a favorite) to get to "EV Sounds" to turn it off, and back on. Please make some, or all options to do:
   • A setting in Custom Drive Mode for EV sounds and/or startup/shutdown sounds.
   • A special icon somewhere in uConnect to toggle sound (or just startup/shutdown)
   • A quick setting thing at the top on the uConnect same as above
   • At minimum, anormal choice in Settings to turn off "Startup/Shutdown" sounds separate from driving/idle sounds (which are cool).
7. The HVAC needed to be turned on after every start, this seems to be resolved after the updates, if so, thanks! EDIT: Still happening, not sure of the trigger.
   EDIT of EDIT: I think I've figured it out. RACE PREP! It stays on (even though it doesn't appear to ever change anything, will be issue #8) Race Prep turns off HVAC, on restart, Race Prep stays on, and turns off HVAC, even if you turned it on last time!
8. Race Prep - Drag Mode - Doesn't seem to actually achieve anything. I turn it on, leave it alone for say 10 minutes, and the timer stays at 20:00. every now and then it will go to 19:59, then back to 20:00. Battery Temp never seems to rise.
   Track Mode - gives a message about battery level (again, what battery, what level? I ass-u-me it is HV battery temp, but nothing found about it yet.

 

[DodgeCares]

I noticed there was a "cap" for the J-1772 port, and thought that was weird. I guess this explains why there is one?

I've never before seen a cap for a J-1772 port.

According to page 144 of your owners manual.. Do not expose the EVSE J1772 vehicle connector to rain or wet conditions. The cap is used to help avoid allowing water or other liquids to pour or drip onto the vehicle connection end of the J1772 EVSE connector. If water penetrates the electrical device, the risk of electrical shock increases. Ensure that all plugs and cables are free of moisture before using the Portable Charging Cordset (EVSE). If any questions are outstanding, please let us know, and we will do our best to advise.

Chris,
Dodge Cares