[Pioneer4x4]

Is this your first EV?

The range "guess-o-meter" isn't generally the best tool to use for determining range.

How many km/kW is your car achieving? What is the OAT?

Do you park outside, or in a garage? Is the garage heated?

Honestly if there's standing water/snow on the roads, with an OAT significantly below 0º C, and the car sits outside getting cold-soaked, I wouldn't expect more than 2 miles/kW, given it isn't shaped like a "melted jelly bean", and has front tires that are wider than most cars' rear tires.

2 mi/kW X 94 kW usable battery capacity = 188 miles. Seems entirely reasonable.

Yep, I definitely experienced this in my Polestar 2. It had similar range (it was a smaller car with 75% as much battery, worked out similar) and driving style, and temperature affected it a good bit. BUT, not as much as driving style affects an old ICE car for sure. My 392 Challenger was say 14mpg in commuting stop and go, and 29mpg peak on the ideal perfect slow highway. Call it 2:1. It is more like 4:3 or 1:1 on an EV where stop and go is dang close or equal to highway range.
Mine would NEVER say 200 miles of range with charge level factored in. Like if I had 80% charge, it would never say 160 miles of range, more like 140. But if/when I actually drove 50+ miles or more at a go, it would basically stay even for the first 40-60 miles, then slowly drop, with the total estimate+ miles driven climbing closer to 220-240 miles.
That is the one thing that is wrong with EVs in our culture. Fixation on "Range". If you ask some random person what the range of their GMC Acadia or whatever is. They probably don't know, and if they do, they know point A to point B, not how much it varies or drops in the city. You'll get "I fill it up 2x a month/week/whatever"
Anywho, yeah, the car eats more electrons when it is cold for sure. And a bit more when hot.
Here is a graph in the manual for my Polestar that I had. I'm sure it is generally close to all EVs. (FWIW, it did not have a heat pump, it had resistive heater). I scrawled POLESTAR 2 on it so this doesn't get parroted about as being Dodge Specific. To sum up, like always, low steady speed wins 100% of the time. Then very hot is bad, and very cold is worse. Nice pleasant day, HVAC off, rated range at 80KMH/50MPH, then downhill from there. And max to min is qquite extrem on this obviously generic graph. 1.8x to maybe .3x! Factor of 6x range difference on an EV!
But real world you will NEVER see 1x unless hypermiling, and probably never go below about .7x

 

[Envyous71]

SUCCESS!
So far I tried 9 USB drives (well 7, 2 won't work on my PC)
And ALL have worked as media in various cars. I had 2 identical ones I bought to do Sync and Map updates on my Aviator Grand Touring (PHEV BEAST). They were exFAT, unlike like the rest that were FAT32. So I reformatted one as NTFS (FAT32 wasn't an option) and made unique volume labels for each. Went back to the car and tried the handful, the last one I tried WORKED.
I was able to rename it (change the Volume Label) from the DXR in the uConnect Screen. It showed it had all free space, and had 341 minutes of space on it. So I made that the Volume Label, both so I wouldn't forget, and so I'd know which it was.
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The type of the file system is exFAT. Additional specs from CHKDSK as follows.

Volume label is 341 min.
50 percent completed..
File and folder verification is complete.

Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
No further action is required.

60078976 KB total disk space.
6656 KB in 4 files.
512 KB in 4 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
256 KB in use by the system.
60071552 KB available on disk.

131072 bytes in each allocation unit.
469367 total allocation units on disk.
469309 allocation units available on disk.

Sample clip from it. Car just idling in my garage. I didn't even look, but EV Sounds were on, and I assume car was in "Auto" mode or "Street"
This is the USB THumb Drive that worked. I'll post specifics, and reformat others to test as well.
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I think this is them

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I was hearing some static sound during the clip. Is it from the Fratzonic or from something else?

 

[Envyous71]

Yep, I definitely experienced this in my Polestar 2. It had similar range (it was a smaller car with 75% as much battery, worked out similar) and driving style, and temperature affected it a good bit. BUT, not as much as driving style affects an old ICE car for sure. My 392 Challenger was say 14mpg in commuting stop and go, and 29mpg peak on the ideal perfect slow highway. Call it 2:1. It is more like 4:3 or 1:1 on an EV where stop and go is dang close or equal to highway range.
Mine would NEVER say 200 miles of range with charge level factored in. Like if I had 80% charge, it would never say 160 miles of range, more like 140. But if/when I actually drove 50+ miles or more at a go, it would basically stay even for the first 40-60 miles, then slowly drop, with the total estimate+ miles driven climbing closer to 220-240 miles.
That is the one thing that is wrong with EVs in our culture. Fixation on "Range". If you ask some random person what the range of their GMC Acadia or whatever is. They probably don't know, and if they do, they know point A to point B, not how much it varies or drops in the city. You'll get "I fill it up 2x a month/week/whatever"
Anywho, yeah, the car eats more electrons when it is cold for sure. And a bit more when hot.
Here is a graph in the manual for my Polestar that I had. I'm sure it is generally close to all EVs. (FWIW, it did not have a heat pump, it had resistive heater). I scrawled POLESTAR 2 on it so this doesn't get parroted about as being Dodge Specific. To sum up, like always, low steady speed wins 100% of the time. Then very hot is bad, and very cold is worse. Nice pleasant day, HVAC off, rated range at 80KMH/50MPH, then downhill from there. And max to min is qquite extrem on this obviously generic graph. 1.8x to maybe .3x! Factor of 6x range difference on an EV!
But real world you will NEVER see 1x unless hypermiling, and probably never go below about .7x
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I think when, EV's are able to go from 10% to 100% and only take say 5 to 10 minutes to do it, then we'll see a major shift in people moving to them. Plus , if costs come down too.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

I was hearing some static sound during the clip. Is it from the Fratzonic or from something else?

It is the recording itself.
(14) DXR Info and interesting clips | Dodge Charger Daytona Forum
I have recording of when I had music on in the car, the recording cuts the sound on that as well. I assume it is nature of the beast with Dash Cam recording, and probably continuously saving the file or something.

 

[aceinspp]

Well my dealer got two new Chargers one of each. I was able to drive a black scat pack and what a blast. I put it through its paces awesome. Love the way you can change the exhaust. Regen works much like on my Jeep 4XE I like the feature. Sound levels in the car are fantastic very quite. I would have like to had a stealth mode also. I like the interior lighting and the way you can change the colors. Later RJD

 

[Pioneer4x4]

... I would have like to had a stealth mode also...

Turn off - Settings -> Electric Vehicle -> EV Sounds
And the car is silent

 

[gameslave7]

Hello everyone. I bought one of these in whim on Wednesday and am glad to see others reporting some of the issues I have. The car won't remember what mode I'm in and resets the regenerative braking, but it seems that's an issue for everyone. However, I am having two more issues I haven't seen mentioned and wanted to ask here. When I have the "engine noise" turned on, one of the speakers crackles quite loudly. It's obviously not intended, and doesn't happen with music or audiobooks or alerts, just the engine noise. Secondly, and this is minor, my touchscreen is turned off by default Everytime I turn the car on. I have to manually turn it on every time I get into it. This is a minor inconvenience but it still seems like a bit of a miss. Has anyone else had these issues?

 

[QuebecRT]

Well my dealer got two new Chargers one of each. I was able to drive a black scat pack and what a blast. I put it through its paces awesome. Love the way you can change the exhaust. Regen works much like on my Jeep 4XE I like the feature. Sound levels in the car are fantastic very quite. I would have like to had a stealth mode also. I like the interior lighting and the way you can change the colors. Later RJD

i have the car for a week now and i realy enjoy the sound ,, sport is my fav but on highway i would like a kind of new gear to lower the Rev a bit

 

[PlumCrazy]

Hello everyone. I bought one of these in whim on Wednesday and am glad to see others reporting some of the issues I have. The car won't remember what mode I'm in and resets the regenerative braking, but it seems that's an issue for everyone. However, I am having two more issues I haven't seen mentioned and wanted to ask here. When I have the "engine noise" turned on, one of the speakers crackles quite loudly. It's obviously not intended, and doesn't happen with music or audiobooks or alerts, just the engine noise. Secondly, and this is minor, my touchscreen is turned off by default Everytime I turn the car on. I have to manually turn it on every time I get into it. This is a minor inconvenience but it still seems like a bit of a miss. Has anyone else had these issues?

Congrats on getting your Charger @gameslave7 and welcome! I wonder if some of these things could be fixed by doing a reset. Or and update of some kind if/when there is one.

Overall are you liking the car?

 

[Socket Monkey Garage]

Hello everyone. I bought one of these in whim on Wednesday and am glad to see others reporting some of the issues I have. The car won't remember what mode I'm in and resets the regenerative braking, but it seems that's an issue for everyone. However, I am having two more issues I haven't seen mentioned and wanted to ask here. When I have the "engine noise" turned on, one of the speakers crackles quite loudly. It's obviously not intended, and doesn't happen with music or audiobooks or alerts, just the engine noise. Secondly, and this is minor, my touchscreen is turned off by default Everytime I turn the car on. I have to manually turn it on every time I get into it. This is a minor inconvenience but it still seems like a bit of a miss. Has anyone else had these issues?

I too suggest a visit with your dealer's service department. They are going to be very focused on keeping customers of these cars happy.

It sounds like some of the updates didn't get fully or properly patched. Have them do all the available ones again, in the proper sequence.

As far as the speaker crackle. in conjunction with the Fratzonic, that may be an issue with how the audio system supplements the exterior sound effects. Hopefully the updates address that as well. Though that may simply be a poorly connected harness.

Either way, call them right away, get it in as soon as you can, and just be patient. There's a price for being the first, and when it comes to cars, this is par for the course.

Welcome aboard! We're glad you're here and excited to hear more about your car.

 

[P.S.Mangelsdorf]

Ok I put a lot of miles on my R/T today and here are my issues:

Regen resetting after a power cycle is stupid, annoying, and disconcerting This needs a fix.

I observed a slight different pattern with regen and drive modes than others with Scat Packs have. At least on my R/T, Sport has a default regen setting of 2, and Auto of 1. This actually makes sense, as my old Challenger provided engine braking in Sport. When I turned the regen up to 2 in Auto, then switched to Sport, then returned to Auto, it stayed in 2. It did seem to be different with 3, but honestly I haven't played around enough with regen at 3 to definitively say what was happening. I'll report back more when I do more testing with that.

My one complaint that hasn't been previously noted has to do with Regen settings 2 and 3 however. With Creep off, i.e. one pedal driving, and taking my foot all the way off the throttle to slow down, it does a fine job slowing the car down, but at least on level roads, just before coming to a stop, it grabs the brakes a bit too hard. Basically like a teenager who hasn't learned to feather out the brake as coming to a stop. This is a better issue than an 09 Yukon Hybrid my family had that did the opposite (release regen before physical brakes applied) but it still is jarring and annoying. Seems to be solved by staying a tiny bit on the throttle until almost stopped, or feathering in some brake. Look, I get (from experience) that regen tuning is hard, and this is their first shot at it, but it needs a bit more work.

 

[gameslave7]

Congrats on getting your Charger @gameslave7 and welcome! I wonder if some of these things could be fixed by doing a reset. Or and update of some kind if/when there is one.

Overall are you liking the car?

I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I traded my Cadillac LYRIQ for this because I wasn't too thrilled about some of the issues the LYRIQ was having and because I missed driving a sportier car. I've been driving 2 door V8s for the last 15 years so I was happy to get back to something similar!

And I had installed the GM Ultium charger in our house so this was able to be charged at home just as well.

I'm hoping a software update can fix the issues mentioned, but the speaker one gives me some concern as of the speakers is blown, it'll have to be replaced. I'm going to give it some time and see if it gets worse before I take it to the dealer and have them try something.

Thank you for the welcome!

 

[P.S.Mangelsdorf]

I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I traded my Cadillac LYRIQ for this because I wasn't too thrilled about some of the issues the LYRIQ was having and because I missed driving a sportier car. I've been driving 2 door V8s for the last 15 years so I was happy to get back to something similar!

And I had installed the GM Ultium charger in our house so this was able to be charged at home just as well.

I'm hoping a software update can fix the issues mentioned, but the speaker one gives me some concern as of the speakers is blown, it'll have to be replaced. I'm going to give it some time and see if it gets worse before I take it to the dealer and have them try something.

Thank you for the welcome!

I would say take it in sooner rather than later. My dealer seemed really eager to figure out the gremlins that came up, and I got the impression that Stellantis has told them to gather as much data as possible.

 

[Raj]

Hi , recently i took delivery of my scatpack daytona . Everything is fine except I have issues with keyless entry not working and having difficulty disconnecting charger . Reached out to delaer , they told chrysler is aware about this issue related to key sensor but for now dealership is waiting for the update before march .

Did any one got a portable charger with their Daytona .

 

[gameslave7]

I have also had difficulty removing my charger from the charging port.

I found the car needs to be actively charging, and you have to press a small button to the right of the portion. This will stop the circuit and let you remove the charger. But this is not explained anywhere, in any manual.

And I did not receive a portable charger with mine Daytona, and I think this was a mistake. I asked about it and was told the options were either a $600 charging credit or they'd give you a home charger for free for you to have installed. But no mobile charger. I will likely get one for myself at a later date. But with a price tag of about $600 for a good one, that's a bit much to do right now.

Hope you enjoy the vehicle!

 

[irrelevant]

Hi , recently i took delivery of my scatpack daytona . Everything is fine except I have issues with keyless entry not working and having difficulty disconnecting charger . Reached out to delaer , they told chrysler is aware about this issue related to key sensor but for now dealership is waiting for the update before march .

Did any one got a portable charger with their Daytona .

Both of our EVs, with the same J-1772 charge port as the Daytona has, require a button be pressed to release the charge plug when the vehicle is charging. One requires it be pushed to remove the plug regardless whether the vehicle is charging or not, and the other one does not. I think it's a safety feature while the vehicle is charging, because it shuts the current off before the plug can be removed. IDK why there isn't a standard for how the plug is released when the vehicle isn't charging, but there are a lot of manufacturer-specific differences in the EV world as they all reinvent the wheel.

I have no experience with the Daytona, but this might help.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

I found 2 more "bugs" and I forwarded them to my concierge.
Audio changes when screenshot is taken (trivial issue)

And incorrect charge time estimate on level 1.

 

[irrelevant]

I found 2 more "bugs" and I forwarded them to my concierge.
Audio changes when screenshot is taken (trivial issue)

And incorrect charge time estimate on level 1.

That first one is bizarre and annoying.

Good catch on the second one. It shouldn't be more than 45 hours on "Level 1", though perhaps the drain from having the car on while you were in it was consuming several hundred watts.

 

[Raj]

Both of our EVs, with the same J-1772 charge port as the Daytona has, require a button be pressed to release the charge plug when the vehicle is charging. One requires it be pushed to remove the plug regardless whether the vehicle is charging or not, and the other one does not. I think it's a safety feature while the vehicle is charging, because it shuts the current off before the plug can be removed. IDK why there isn't a standard for how the plug is released when the vehicle isn't charging, but there are a lot of manufacturer-specific differences in the EV world as they all reinvent the wheel.

I have no experience with the Daytona, but this might help.

Your keyless entry is working ? Did you try using digital key card .

 

[irrelevant]

Your keyless entry is working ? Did you try using digital key card .

I haven't yet committed to buying a Daytona. The above is from experience with other J-1772/CCS EVs.

I'm looking forward to reading new owners' impressions and thoughts on the Daytona models.